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    Stinger TimeLine of Running Issues

    Sad day when I have to post this.

    This is the time line of issues experience by us in Australia with Stinger, which has been kept within our private section but it's time to make it public.

    After countless logs sent in and e-mails, the only thing to be improved was MRCT detection.
    To date we have gone from firmware 2.1.xx which had 800m Redflex detection / 1.5-2km Gatso AUS 24 detection, to this day 4.0.32 which No Detection/0m Detection with Redflex / Gatso 100-200m detection.

    Now to be clear, this is avg from 8 stinger users, all installed to stinger recommendations or even exceeding.

    The first part of the timeline below was E-MAILED to Stinger and Paul @ Radars Aus July the 7th 2016.

    2014 - Aussies adopt stinger

    2014 OCT - Firmware goes from 2 to 3.x series - slightly reduced range but huge improvement on false filtering - HD602
    2014 DEC - MRCT goes into the wild - Resolved April 2015 - HD608
    2015 April - Noted falsing issues on KA and decreased K band range/detection - Still unresolved as of July 2016 - HD608
    2015 May - Logs provided of VW and Holden BSM - Still unresolved as of July 2016
    2015 June - Logs Provided of Gatso RT3 - Still unresolved as of July 2016
    2015 June/July - Stinger USA opens - promises to beat all laser threats as well as new laser hardware - ongoing
    2015 Oct - Last Public firmware / improved KA detection but also increased KA falses - HD608
    2015 OCT - K band range and detection further deduced - Gatso/Redflex speed cameras almost undetectable - Still unresolved as of July 2016 (Jan 2017) - HD608
    2015 OCT to 2016 July - New betas every few months - worsening detection / No HDfirmware realses /
    2016 April - New Radar Ranges in AU Reported - Resolved as of Dec 2016 - HD608 (HD611 fix)
    2016 July - New Beta released to address new radar ranges in AU - Unable to detect I/O, Does not detect K Band speed cameras, KA detection lag on C/O, fails to detect new radar bands - Still unresolved as of July 2016 - HD608 . -- I/O and C/O issue resolved with 4.0 series.

    Updated Timeline as of today the 5th of Jan 2017.

    Dec 2016 - Stinger comes out with 4.0 series firmware and HD611
    Dec 2016 - Noted KA falsing issue - resolved within a week.
    Dec 2016 - Noted Reduced bands - 35.5 removed.... Unresolved as of Jan2017
    Dec 2016 - European Customers noted loss in detection with certain European only radars.
    Dec 2016 - Noted worsening with Gatso Aus 24 detection to almost 0m (Tested with 3 cars with 3 different stinger installs with different configurations). Unresolved
    Dec 2016 - Noted Redflex range fails to detect Vertical / 0m-Past radar detection with Horizontal. (STIR detections 100-150m before) - 5 different logs submitted, even provided the radars specs, models, fcc id.
    Jan 2017 - Further logs submitted of the Redflex 342 with patch Panel external to the car up high and down low.
    Jan 2017 - HD patch locks up randomly and requires full power removal to resume K band detection. - reported but not resolved.
    Jan 2017 - Stingers Offical reply re Redflex is weak signal....try placing the antenna another way.
    This is where we have hit a wall, we have tested against this radar with 5 different setups and each one is a failure.
    HD up high vertical / horizontal.
    HD down low, vertical / horizontal.
    HD behind glass and grill.
    Tested with 3 different Stinger units - ALL FAIL with newer firmware and struggles with older firmwares against the Redflex ADG 342
    (ADG340 fails on current firmware, works fine on 2.1.00)

    We also ran comparison tests with a STIR ALP and STIR BEL CPU in vertical and horizontal against the Redflex ADG 342 with 100-150m range max.
    Redline detects 20-50m back.

    We don't have RT3 detection, and that is in the wild.

    Speaking on behalf of many Australia Stinger users, (I'm sure many European customers too) we need these issues resolved.
    We paid for a premium product and are receiving less then budget performance in it's current state.

    I enjoy being on the cutting edge like anyone else, but as a customer, this has become highly frustrating.
    The Redflex has been an issue for awhile now but with Redflex's revisions, they are certainly making it hard but it almost seems like Stinger has either given up (too hard) or maybe Redflex has beaten stinger with their new radar which requires a new HD Antenna design with extra receive gain?


    Some Videos taken recently.
    Reduced Gatso Range on newer firmwares:

    Same Gatso Cameras with 3.0.14 - huge improvement Watch Video for commentary.


    Redflex Detection Issues: . (Audio Issues)

    Redflex Log run as requested by Stinger:

    Redflex Log run with Another Stinger User:


    Please post your issues below - reminder this post is Public.
    Last edited by beingaware; 01-05-2017 at 03:27 AM.
    Defence: ALP x 3 Front / 2 x Angled Rears | Stinger VIP Radar x 2 Patch Panels / Stinger VIP LIDAR (testing)| Escort Redline 2013 int | Escort Redline MRCT 2015 int | STI-R+ | V1 (testing) | Veil
    CM Testing: Spectre RDD Mrk IV | UltraLyte LR UX 125pps | UltraLyte LRB 125pps | Stalker LZ1 | ProLaser 2 (The Hole Finder) | Kustom Talon 2 KA | Bushnell Velocity K Band
    Intelligence: Front/Rear Dash Cam | 477MHz 2-WAY Radio
    Want your jammer setup tested? Want to confirm your RD is stealth? Send me a PM.
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    The tiger in terms of dollars spent reveals to be kitty in performance against specific threat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tman View Post
    The tiger in terms of dollars spent reveals to be kitty in performance against specific threat
    Wouldn't be so bad if it was an isolated issue but with having a 90% reduction in detection range across different brands and types of PhotoRadar, it's pretty unnerving that they have crippled their flagship product.

    I've tried to stay objective and impartial but sadly it's gotten to the point where noise needs to be made.
    Last edited by beingaware; 01-05-2017 at 01:08 AM.
    Defence: ALP x 3 Front / 2 x Angled Rears | Stinger VIP Radar x 2 Patch Panels / Stinger VIP LIDAR (testing)| Escort Redline 2013 int | Escort Redline MRCT 2015 int | STI-R+ | V1 (testing) | Veil
    CM Testing: Spectre RDD Mrk IV | UltraLyte LR UX 125pps | UltraLyte LRB 125pps | Stalker LZ1 | ProLaser 2 (The Hole Finder) | Kustom Talon 2 KA | Bushnell Velocity K Band
    Intelligence: Front/Rear Dash Cam | 477MHz 2-WAY Radio
    Want your jammer setup tested? Want to confirm your RD is stealth? Send me a PM.
    <a href=http://www.raletc.com target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.raletc.com</a>

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    @ beingaware,
    Jan 2017 - Stingers Offical reply re Redflex is weak signal....try placing the antenna another way.
    is this there official reply from Stinger ? after you sent the logs for new Redflex ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinkydi View Post
    @ beingaware,
    Jan 2017 - Stingers Offical reply re Redflex is weak signal....try placing the antenna another way.
    is this there official reply from Stinger ? after you sent the logs for new Redflex ?
    Correct.
    Even went told that other cars have the same issue with different placements and that even other RDs have issues.

    I put Stinger back to 3.0.14/hd567 and guess what?
    Got my detection range back...
    Video has some commentary.
    Defence: ALP x 3 Front / 2 x Angled Rears | Stinger VIP Radar x 2 Patch Panels / Stinger VIP LIDAR (testing)| Escort Redline 2013 int | Escort Redline MRCT 2015 int | STI-R+ | V1 (testing) | Veil
    CM Testing: Spectre RDD Mrk IV | UltraLyte LR UX 125pps | UltraLyte LRB 125pps | Stalker LZ1 | ProLaser 2 (The Hole Finder) | Kustom Talon 2 KA | Bushnell Velocity K Band
    Intelligence: Front/Rear Dash Cam | 477MHz 2-WAY Radio
    Want your jammer setup tested? Want to confirm your RD is stealth? Send me a PM.
    <a href=http://www.raletc.com target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.raletc.com</a>

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    thats sad, very sad indeed only thing is u lose the moto bike cops going bak but u got other stuff, up here its not to bad, u city runners are really catching it, probably find there way up here later

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